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From page 41 Oppression is making a comeback. Repression is fashionable again.
And so, I don’t believe anyone holding this position — even if they felt
People have their rights, the States have their obligations, their com- differently — can ultimately conduct business in a manner that departs
mitments. And we have to defend the people. too radically from the way that I, or my predecessors, have done it. If
you try to depart, it will be extremely unpleasant for you because you’re
UN News: Where do you think you’ve made the biggest going to hear it from the very people who are suffering. And there can be
difference, personally? And have you made mistakes? nothing that will tear at your conscience more, if you abandoned them.
So, my belief is that the job defines the conduct.
Zeid Ra’ad Al Hussein: I don’t know. The question ought to be
addressed to civil society, victims’ groups, human rights defenders. And UN News: For you, where to next?
if they said, “Zeid has done a good job,” I’d be very content with that. If
they said, “Zeid could have done better,” I’d have to learn to live with it Zeid Ra’ad Al Hussein: I don’t know, maybe I’ll be a journalist! I’ve
and accept it. It’s really for them to quantify the extent to which I have been away from my family; I need to spend time with them and then
achieved something or whether they think that I was able to undertake I’ll look and see what new direction I’d want to take myself. But I need
my responsibilities in the right manner. a rest as well.

UN News: You said that being High Commissioner for Hu- UN News: having walked this tightrope, do you feel per-
man Rights is a unique job within the UN, and you seem haps a little more appreciative of what the UN does, or
to have followed a fairly similar path to your predecessors perhaps a little less?
in making yourself unpopular with governments. Do you
want to see your successor sticking to that path? Zeid Ra’ad Al Hussein: No, if I were to, in the future, think of the
UN, I would think of the moments in the field where I see the UN doing
Zeid Ra’ad Al Hussein: The fundamental point that I mentioned amazing things. It’s very difficult to tolerate abuse of the UN when I keep
earlier is that the States can defend themselves. Our job is not to defend thinking of the heroic things that people do in the field, whether they
the States, and the law is there for the protection of the weak, not in be humanitarian personnel, my human rights people, the people who
defence of the strong. And so, we look at the law, we look at the obliga- are monitoring, observing, with some threat to themselves: I take my
tions of States, and our job is to defend the individual victims, vulnerable hat off to them. They are the UN that I will cherish and remember. - UN
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